what's the best way to make compost over the winter? we get quite a bit of snow up here (mt shasta) and i was wondering if a bin made of wooden palletes (maybe insulated with some hay?) would do the trick..? would i need something more heavy duty maybe? thanks in advance for the input :)
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Re: winter composting...?
Thu, February 15, 2007 - 9:15 AMI was wondering if anyone has any luck composting in the winter as well. Its been in the -20's here at night for the past three weeks, and my whole compost pile is frozen solid. I know it will be fine when it thaws, but I can't even turn it now. I keep throwing my kitchen waste out there, and some of the wildlife has been nibbling at it, so at least its helping something.
If anyone else is composting in really cold temps, I would love to hear any ideas you have for keeping the pile warm. Lining it with straw isn't enough for here, as I've done that already.
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Mon, February 19, 2007 - 2:46 AMsummer or winter..... makes no difference.. if.....
providing your build a heap properly it will heat up regardless of the time of year since the process is not dependent on ambient temperatures... the heating process is as a consequence of the breakdown....
I've built heaps in the past using ice and the heating process is delayed by a matter of hours......
just build your heaps correctly and let nature take its course...
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Tue, February 20, 2007 - 4:17 PMcheck out the vermicomposting tribe. Fun, easy, weird pets you can keep in an apt.
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Thu, March 29, 2007 - 11:04 AMI had the same problem...
I just started a compost bin last fall and added some red wiggler worms for good measure--I was happy when it started getting warm, and I added kitchen scraps and turned it pretty regularly. But when it started getting really cold and snowy in the winter, I stopped going out to dump scraps--so when I went out a few weeks ago to check it, it was frozen solid!
I felt awful about failing to maintain a good balance that would keep it heated, but even worse that I probably killed a few thousand hard-workin' worms. But a few days after adding a lot of coffee grounds and kitchen waste, it was heating up nicely again, and I noticed a few worms in there (maybe the core was still warm?).
I didn't think compost could freeze!
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Thu, March 29, 2007 - 5:14 PMI normally bury my kitchen scraps in the back yard, rotating around to distribute the . . .fertility.
Not much heat in my compost. Yes, for a few months, it was frozen solid out there, I just kept tossing the scrap in the pile. It probably freeze-dried out there. Yesterday, I took out the garden claw, shovel, and rake, turned the soil, dug a trench about 18" deep, and buried the kitchen waste and some leftover xmas tree.
I saw no evidence of anything I've buried before November, including tree branches. I saw new worms in the soil. Katrina, your worms will multiply happily again as spring warms the soil. Nature is wonderful. My tigerlilies and daisies are coming back too.
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Fri, March 30, 2007 - 10:09 AMI live in northern British Columbia and it is not uncommon for it to be -40F here in the winter. Then I have the crux of having grizzly bears and black bears here for the other 6 months. I was a COMPULSIVE composter in Oregon before I moved here and I still am.. but I have to go about it differently now that I am North of 53.
When I first got here, I composted like I did in Oregon and had 3 bins going. Then I found out that in July, the ground was still FROZEN SOLID under the compost piles for 4 feet down. Seriously. At our winter temperatures there is no way the piles can hold or generate enough heat. At times we are colder than interior Alaska. So then I tried again when we moved to our 40 acre homestead. I made sure that the compost get moved 3-4 weeks before the ground was workable so that I did not have ice patches in the garden. Then the bears made their presence known. And we found we had a neo-natal black bear den on our property, so we had to re-think how to do this as we were generating 2.5 pounds of compostable items a day. We also do not have garbage service where we live, and also being earth-friendly in this household, we try to reduce our garbage as much as possible. .
So.. since we basically live in the animals area, as we live in the bush, it is not fair to push them out of their homes. And we figured we could work out a deal. So for 6 months of the year, we now rot our 'compost'. We toss it out into different areas on our 3,500 sf garden. The freezing makes the 'compostable items' break down quickly and feed the soil, which is then tilled into the soil when the garden is workable in late May (we have snow on the ground very often until then, even right now it is 3 feet still in spots). Then 6 months of the year that the bears are lurking about, we feed the compost to the pigs and then their manure is spread on the rest of the land (as I do not want it in the garden) to fertilize.
I need to start a worm bin again. I had one when I lived in the apartment and then when I moved to our 'temporary home', someone thought they would freeze, put them in the greenhouse and the poor beggers cooked. Maybe they would like it in the root cellar?
tenzicut
www.downtotherootsmagazine.com
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Wed, May 16, 2007 - 10:48 AMHi Tenzicut,
I have actually thought of digging a hole in the earth and putting my compost in it in the winter, do you think that would help? We also can get down in the -30's, and that always freezes everything. Luckily I have no bears to deal with. :) But I was thinking that a 4 or 5 foot deep hole with a piece of plywood over it might help keep it from freezing so easily. Even if I have a nice balance in my heap, it still freezes.
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Wed, May 16, 2007 - 3:13 PMI think that would work if you supplied oxygen to the pile somehow. Some kind of a ventilation system. -
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Wed, May 16, 2007 - 5:13 PMI moved to this place in August, so it was September before I got my compost started. I know it spent part of the winter frozen solid, but I still have lovely black crumbly compost to use now.
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Wed, December 26, 2007 - 11:58 AMI just moved in to my place and I don't have a pile started. So what I'm doing is spreading my compostables on my unplanted (and snowy) beds and covering them with soil and snow to help mat the stuff down and moisten it so that it all doesn't end up flying away.
This works for now since I have nothing planted and I need to build soil anyway. But I'll probably just get a tumbler in the future. By keeping the compost off the ground, it should be a little more protected from frost. Also, keeping the tumbler in a sunny spot (if you get sun in the winter, which we do in New Mexico) should help the compost thaw out. -
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Sat, December 29, 2007 - 8:43 PMan alternative to winter composting learned from an old Maine friend - - - continue placing compostables in a paper shopping bag ( double or extra paper lining on the bottom ) , clip the top of the bag to discourage fruit flies and place the bag on a radiator or near a heat source. The dried contents may be added to the bin, tumbler or pile - - - at any time.
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Fri, February 1, 2008 - 9:47 AMverma composting. my new pet worms live in a bin in a closet and consume half their weight a day of compost, worm castings are a main ingredient in most good organic soil mixes you can buy. In urban areas we do not want to attract rats with food that freezes in the snow. thanks